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Topic: AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO FINDS INTRUSIVE THOUGHTS COMPLETELY ANNOYING !!? IF YES, PLS SHARE YOUR STORY :) IM NOT COPING :(

  1. 20girl101
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    29 September 2020 in reply to Petal22

    If nothing can be done, I'm still more than happy to talk on here :)

    Thank you so much for the support.

    From your understanding do you really think this is all in my head?

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    29 September 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Sorry 20girl101 we can only communicate through this forum ๐Ÿ˜Š

    No worries, happy to support on here ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Is it all in your head? I canโ€™t answer that question.... keep talking and bring it up with your psychologist..... mention to her what you have posted to me in previous threads....

    Keep in touch and keep practicing ๐Ÿ˜Š

    im still here if you want to chat ๐Ÿ˜Š

  3. 20girl101
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    2 October 2020 in reply to Petal22
    I just hope that after lockdown things can turn to normal and therefore I can clear my mind and truly figure out what's going on. I know it's just seriously screwed with my head badly.
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    2 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    I hope your lockdown finish soon ๐Ÿ˜Š

    It will help to be able to get out and about ๐Ÿ˜Š

  5. 20girl101
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    17 October 2020 in reply to Petal22

    Hey petal! It's been ages !! How are you? I'm doing okay I guess, some days I struggle and some days I don't. I've realised that all these thoughts have now become automatic thoughts, meaning that they just come up whenever with no real good meaning or reason. This is the first week that I haven't seen the psych, I'm doing ok. My boyfriend is a big support and I'm slowly slowly getting better xx I'd really love to hear from you.

    20girl101

  6. Petal22
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    18 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hello 20girl101,

    Lovely to hear from you.... ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Iโ€™m good ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Well done......yes our thoughts are automatic congratulations for realising this... ๐Ÿ˜Š

    I too had good days and bad days in recovery but your good days will outweigh your bad days....

    Thats great your boyfriend has been so supportive ....

    You can always go back to your phycologist if you want to i think the government has increased the sessions from 10 to 20 free...

    Keep pushing forward you WILL get there ๐Ÿ˜Š

    Keep in touch ๐Ÿ˜Š and have a nice day ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    18 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hi 20girl101

    many words can be used to describe intrusive thoughts. For me they can be abhorrent, random, scary, tiring, funny, but a lot of the time they areย 'where did that come from, this isnt me'.

    the intrusive thoughts come from OCD, which seem to drive the anxiety, which drives the depression.

    With my psychologist we never really spoke about OCD in great detail and the horrible intrusive thoughts, only some of them that were immediately driving the Anx/Dep. it was probably in fear of what they psych would think.

    i wish i could go back and discuss these things. So when you do talk with your mental health professional, dont hold back...thats my advice.

    when it comes to the intrusive thoughts, what i learned, and i tell myself all of the time is โ€œthe thoughts are just thought, not realityโ€ im not going to act on them, i acknowledge that they are there, but try hard not to dwell too much.

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    i hope you can find inner peace and comfort, answers, and skills with your Next steps.

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    Not_Batman

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  8. 20girl101
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    19 October 2020 in reply to Petal22
    I just don't know how to explain how I'm feeling. I have good days and bad days. It's almost like I am learning to love again. I know that sounds dumb, but the thoughts have left me so out of touch with myself. It's literally like I'm living in my head. That's the best way to put it. I feel like I'm overthinking and paying attention to every little thought that I am unable to like fully engage and enjoy moments with my partner.
  9. 20girl101
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    19 October 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    Thank you so much! It's been a real hard journey and I'm so proud that I have gotten this far. From a few months ago I was in a really bad place and I'm slowly getting out, I just am scared that I will never be able to let go of the thoughts. I've made them somewhat important to me. It's becoming a joke now.
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    20 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    You will get there... ๐Ÿ˜Š I understand... you will learn to let go of the thoughts.... did your phycologist give you any strategies on how to let the thoughts go...?

    When you feel like you are in your head you need to bring your attention out of your head and put it on something in the present moment.... even if thatโ€™s the conversation your having with your partner ๐Ÿ˜€ it takes practice ๐Ÿ˜Š keep practicing ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    20 October 2020 in reply to Petal22

    Climbing a mountain is not an easy task for us who are not mountaineers.

    from the bottom it looks a very long and hard journey, especially if the face is vertical.

    climbing the mountain starts with a single step, and every step is one less to the top.

    sometimes we lose our footing and slip. Sometimes we take a take a wrong turn. We just need to find another path.

    the journey may be long, but when you get to the top you will Have a clear view, and be able to look down at the journey you have taken, and feel proud that you made it.

    if you get to the top of the mountain, and then realise you are just on a peak of a larger mountain, put those mountaineering skills that you have just used to get to the top of the next mountain.

    Not_Batman

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    20 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hello 20girl101 and all those that have replied on this particular thread because the discussion has been terrific, and those who suffer from this knows exactly how another person feels.

    These thoughts can be very explicit, and we are ashamed and definitely worried about them, and therefore keep them secret and it means that we unconsciously want to do the things that come into our mind, we know this isn't true, the opposite happens and that's what frightens us.

    It's the fight we have in ourselves that makes it stick and some how makes it want to return.

    We fight them because it's not how we actually are, and that's what goes against us so much and disturbs us, because trying to tell another person of them only gets a reply of 'don't be so stupid' and this only worsen it for us.

    These are different to when another person says 'they also have them', but once you talk about it, their thought will be gone in a day or so, completely different to our intrusive thoughts that linger on.

    Take care.

    Geoff.

  13. 20girl101
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    20 October 2020 in reply to Petal22
    I must say the thoughts have gotten less and less which makes the reoccurrence of them so hard, because I'll be having a great day and then boom, again. It's like when I look forward to seeing my boyfriend all day and then I see him and I just have thoughts, it annoys me. My psychologist said to not pay them any mind and I haven't, but I then just get overwhelmed to why they can't go away and how I don't want to live like this forever. Like I'm afraid on my wedding day this will happen.
  14. 20girl101
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    20 October 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    thanks for that. Definitely needed some sort of inspiration. It's so hard for me to just let this go. I'm getting better from where I was 2 months ago, slowly but surely I guess.
  15. 20girl101
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    20 October 2020 in reply to geoff
    Some of the thoughts I have honestly scare me so much because I have no reason to even think of them. I love my boyfriend and definitely won't want to live my life without him, I just have made the thoughts too much of an issue and have fed them 100%. It's like my true self is hidden behind all these thoughts.
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    20 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hi 20girl101

    excellent to hear that you are getting better. Keep up the good work.

    Not_Batman

  17. 20girl101
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    20 October 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    I just find it hard to now find out what is true and what is it not. It's like I've turned into someone who can't control how they feel.
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    20 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    20girl101, have you got a name for the voice? What does the voice look like?

    I visualise mine as sort of a muppet. So i have taken something quite scary and taken away its power reduced it to a cuddly toy.

    whenever i have one of those thoughts, i can associate it with the character. This also helps me to distinguish what is true and what is not. It doesn't always work, but is a strategy that i use.

    if you are talking to a health professional, Maybe discuss critical inner voice, or voice therapy (i think thats what we called it)

    with any little bit of success, make sure you encourage yourself, give yourself a high-five for what you have achieved so far.

    Not_Batman

  19. 20girl101
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    20 October 2020 in reply to Not_Batman
    It's almost like the voice isn't me! It's going against everything I have ever wanted. I visualised a future with my boyfriend and would get so happy and now I'm just left numb to the idea of it and it's like when I think of it, I need to think about it until it feels 'right'. I'm not exactly sure what that means, but I need to think about it until I feel 100% comfortable. It's a weird feeling. I look forward to seeing my boyfriend ALL day! and then when I'm with him, it's just all these thoughts. I don't even know how I'm supposed to proceed with the relationship anymore. I feel stuck.
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    20 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hello 20girl101,

    Iโ€™d like to set you a task.... I learned this in my ocd therapy I think it can help you as it helped me to break free of the ocd cycle I was stuck in.....

    itโ€™s called driving the new system

    These intrusive thoughts/urges/images mean.......

    โ€ nothing โ€œ Iโ€™m normal 94percent of people have them.

    Even if they seem or feel really awful! They still mean....

    still normal / itโ€™s random activity

    when I have an intrusion ( and I will!) I can

    let it go

    be present

    gently dismiss as โ€œ my intrusionโ€

    be ok with uncertainty- nothing is 100 percent certain

    I donโ€™t need to.....

    annalyse

    seek reassurance

    checking

    avoid the thoughts

    because..... They donโ€™t mean anything

    โ€œ thoughts mean nothingโ€

    I hope this helps you...., learn it and practice it... believe it.....

    I think you are stuck in a cycle..... you CAN break free of it.... I DID you CAN......

    let me know how you go.... practice, practice, practice ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    21 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hello 20girl101, if I can just say that my worse intrusive thought stopped when an important occasion, whether it's good or not happened and this may also be the same on your wedding night.

    It wasn't so good for me back then as my dear Mum was put into a nursing home, I loved her and couldn't understand why I had these thoughts, but they suddenly stopped.

    Best wishes.

    Geoff.

  22. 20girl101
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    23 October 2020 in reply to Petal22
    But how did you break free ? and how long did it take? I am definitely and overthinker and definitely stuck in a crazy cycle!
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    24 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    I broke free because I became conscious of my thoughts.... I learned to stand back and watch my thoughts...... I could see the patterns of my mind..... I learned what my cycle was........ I resisted seeking reassurance.....I stopped checking things I learned to not get caught up in my cycle...... I broke free because I stopped doing all of the things I was doing that kept me in my cycle .....

    Practice driving the new system..... it does take practice..... study it.... practice meditation this will help you become more conscious..... keep practicing........ it took me months to get a grip on the new system I was driving I had turbulence but eventually I broke free of my ocd cycle.........

    you CAN break free...... it just takes practice ๐Ÿ˜Š

  24. 20girl101
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    26 October 2020 in reply to Petal22
    would you say i'm stuck in an ocd cycle? I can't seem to get out of it and everyday i'm stuck with the backlash of the thoughts. It's like whatever I do, they still remain. I KNOW what I want. I know what I want my future to look like. I just can't see it happening right now.
  25. Petal22
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    26 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    In my experience 20girl101 you are stuck in a cycle.... itโ€™s something your mind is in but you canโ€™t seem to break free of it..... it brings anxiety and confusion....... a phyciatrist will be able to diagnose..... or a clinical phycologist....

    have you got more sessions with your phycologist? Maybe see a phyciatrist for a diagnosis?

    practice driving the new system I have given to you..... write it down and practice... study it..... I canโ€™t emphasise meditation enough it will help you become more aware of your thinking cycle.......

    you CAN break free of this.... we just need help to be shown how.... which I have given you in driving the new system ๐Ÿ˜Š

  26. 20girl101
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    26 October 2020 in reply to Petal22
    I honestly think I should see a psychiatrist as well. I'm not sure though. My psych hasn't mentioned anything about cycles and stuff but maybe she just can't identify it? She definitely does think I am stuck in this thought pattern though. When I usually overthink I think about it for a while, but within a day it goes away so I'm amazed to how this has evolved and gotten worse and worse over the past months. Could be because I want to be in this relationship and don't want to let go. Do you think I should see a clinical psychologist ?
  27. Petal22
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    27 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    I think it would be a great idea for you to see a clinical phycologist or a phyciatrist.... they can both diagnose....

    A normal phycologist canโ€™t diagnose....

    How has you anxiety level been for you?

    ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    27 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Also with what you have just told me about your thoughts it sounds like you are โ€œ analysingโ€ your thoughts...... analysing is part of the cycle......

    You to work on stopping the analysing.....

    go back and read โ€œ driving the new system โ€œ....... keep practicing and begin meditation ๐Ÿ˜Š

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    You need to work on stopping the analysing ๐Ÿ˜Š
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    27 October 2020 in reply to 20girl101

    Hello 20girl, I agree with Petal22, once you start to analyse, question or argue these thoughts only make the OCD worse.

    Compulsions are learnt behaviours and become repetitive and ongoing when we associate them to relieve our anxiety.

    Uncertainty can create a strong reaction to the situation and then ake us worry, so we do anything to avoid or get away from this by doing something to help us believe we are eliminating this uncertainty.

    If you are able to sit with this uncertainty, then this discomfort will eventually decrease by itself, but as soon as you begin to question it then it will only remain and possibly be worse, but to be able to achieve this a psychologist who deals with OCD is the option for you.

    Take care.

    Geoff.

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