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Topic: In support of others in challenging times.

  1. Guest_9043
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    25 March 2020
    Hi,

    Don't expect anyone to respond to this. It's just a post to talk about how I am feeling and to offer much love and understanding to those who are also struggling. For the first few weeks I did not take Covid 19 too seriously. I knew Italy had been hit hard and I truly felt so much for Italy. Sad even. Felt powerless to help. I at first got so angry with Australians panic buying. I was so annoyed at the ridiculousness of it and thought it would blow over very soon. I was wrong, it got much worse. I found myself getting very depressed after a shopping trip for a weekly shop. I was upset I could not get certain things to make meals. I was upset I could not even get a bottle of hand sanitizer or methylated spirits to make my own hand sanitizer.

    Then the government started making changes, social distancing and events I was going to were cancelled. From there on in it was a snowball effect. In my state of WA, our borders were shut today and no businesses with food such as restaurants, cafes, pubs are not allowed open after 12pm daytime. Gyms, cinemas, casino and nightclubs all shut down. I'm concerned about the clean up after this has eased more. Many people have lost their jobs with no second income. People will hardly be hiring right now. The hit to the economy is going to have a large dent in it.

    I'm really struggling to even come to terms with such rapid and fast changes.

    I just want to wish you all better days sooner rather tater. Keep your heads up and pay attention to washing your hands very popular.

    I wish everyone very well and take good always.

    2quik.
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  2. Andre_P
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    25 March 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Well said m8. It’s not easy for anyone. The hardest part is changing 1’s habits soo dramatically let alone self isolating etc.

    We definitely need to all have empathy for one another n be kind to each other.

    As for the washing hands thing well I got that covered mate, I got ocd 😂 I’ve been washing my hands like a crazy person for years. Now I actually look normal 😂.

    keep in touch m8. 👊👊

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  3. Guest_9043
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    25 March 2020 in reply to Andre_P
    Hi Andre,

    I used to have the OCD issue you have. I was aware of it becoming worse so before it did I did something about it. I had to work with my brain. I understand it is not easy though and hard to overcome and work through. It's definitely psychological.

    You were normal anyway before Covid 19 Having OCD does not make you not normal. That's my opinion though.

    I'm finding the self isolation and social distancing very hard. I need to do social things and not isolate too much to manage my mental illness.
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    25 March 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hello,

    Thank you for your post 2quik and I so appreciate your kindness and warmth to everyone that has to go through this.

    I too have felt the same way- in total shock and sympathy for people overseas dealing with something so extreme, to almost laughter at the ridiculousness of stockpiling toilet paper - we literally make our own! All the way to total misery and despair at not even being able to find one roll for myself. Now when I go grocery shopping instead of having a plan (like I've always done) I see what food is available and try and make a meal out of that.

    You are right in that so much has shut down - and I'm guessing more will be too for now. But I also believe that Australia is pretty resilient and will be able to bounce back after all of this. How have you been coping?

    Andre_P -

    While this post applies to you too of course I was just thinking that it must be so hard for some people with OCD - having intense rituals and trying not to wash their hands too much and now having reminders everywhere to wash our hands?!

  5. Guest_9043
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    25 March 2020 in reply to romantic_thi3f
    Hi Romantic Thief,

    You are welcome. It's the least I can do. Each person is heavily impacted by Covid 19. It has hit everyone and everything hard. Coles sent us an email saying pensioners, people on Newstart, veterans etc are opening it's doors between the hours of 7am and 8am Monday, Wednesday and Friday for that hour for those people only. I am in that bracket so I am going to do that now and hopefully can get some stuff I'm not getting.

    As for how I've been coping, I have not been at all. I have only just realised in the last few days how it's impacted on me overall. It was so unprecedented and it all happened so fast I had no time to even keep up with massive change in short time frames. For a person who tries to deal with change as best I can it was too much and very rapid.

    Looking at some of the actions a large majority of Australians took with the panic buying and the major repercussions that has had still makes me feel angry. I see the majority of Australia now as selfish, thoughtless and counter productive. It wasn't just the panic buying it was doomand gloom from the get go like the whole of Australia was suddenly going to be in lock down. You also see this behaviour when new items or big sales are about to happen. Hoards of people, people even camping out the front of stores. I see all of it as completely unnecessary and I can see the major devastating effect it has had. Now given that I would hope but am doubtful that Australians will reflect on their choices and do better next time. There is going to be a next time. It's not government that should be looked at, it is also largely us as individual people. A lot of things were absolutely unnecessary.

    Some things I agree with, others I do not. Restricting travel for a short time. Fine and understandable. Closing our borders, no I don't agree.

    Stopping groups from running all together, no I don't agree. (This has had a major impact on me)

    The media asking dumb questions as usual about setting up a 1300 number to dob in a neighbour seen not doing the right thing. Stupidity abound and completely disagree. Security measures, security guards out front of stores? What for,excuse me mam, you have too many rolls of toilet paper,I'm going to ask you to only take the alloted amount per customer.

    Australia may or may not be resilient, the clean up I shudder to think. Extremely disappointed in Australia.
  6. Andre_P
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    26 March 2020

    Today was actually a hard day. I spent all day getting stuff all done.

    What’s hard is I live with my old man and he knows how to push my buttons lol. I like things a certain way n he moves stuff so I can’t find it lol.

    yea I’m definitely a perfectionist.

    I wish I had the money to have my own place. As I previously mentioned somewhere I’m an outgoing introvert. I like my own space but when I go out or catch up with someone I make a good go of it.

    while I’m an introvert I certainly don’t like sitting home all bloody day everyday. I wanna get out n go for a drive somewhere n go to a local restaurant n the beach or whatever etc etc, but we can’t in these hard times as everything’s shut n in lockdown (almost).

    cant wait till things are back to normal ay.

  7. Guest_9043
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    26 March 2020 in reply to Andre_P

    Hey Andre,

    I am sorry you had a hard day yesterday. Some days are harder than others. You seem to have a sense of humor in regards to your father and sometimes a sense of humor is needed in life. I do hope one day you can get some money together to have your own place.

    I am an introvert myself, not much of a sociable person or outgoing though. I used be. I just changed over the last 6 or so years. I do not mind having a great chat with someone, I need it to be interesting though. I can get bored with how's the weather type of chat? I like in depth and thoughtful chats. It makes me feel more alive in myself. I do understand though about going out. I still go out to parks, beaches very low key social things with just a few people.

    I am not going out a lot now. I am quite depressed and just over what I am witnessing every time I go out. I am trying realLy hard to minimise getting way too involved with Covid 19. This social distancing I am finding darn hard. I went to woolworths today and it was shut at 10:30 am. Not open at all. I did not know why. Heaps of people waiting. I ended up going to a tobacconist instead. I was upset. A young girl was scrubbing the floors like no ones business and the guy who served me stood literally a metre and a half away. I said to him I am finding this social distancing very difficult. He just said well if it is what they recommend we should do it. I was just sad.

    Then no one is even allowed in the chemist I went too. The entry is all roped off. You have to stop there and someone comes to help you with what you want. You also have to pay there and that is it. You leave.

    The reception where I live has closed completely and we are not allowed in at all. To get our mail we have to call reception, walk to their front door and be met at the door with our mail. I cannot cope a second longer. It is just too much for me. Now, I am having to get up at 7am to go do my weekly shop tomorrow. I want this to be over.

    2quik.

  8. Andre_P
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    29 March 2020

    Yes mate it isn’t easy. I was having a disagreement with the old man today. I just calmly jumped in my vehicle and went for a drive. Just drove around doing nothing but seeing the sites and listening to music. It was good to get out. I may not be able to stop for an event but that doesn’t stop me from driving/driving to a park ^_^

    what I am finding though is that this whole social distancing is creating more anxiety. I feel like it’s me vs the world sometimes and this kind of behaviour is very bad for anxiety. I hope this thing ends soon so I can at least try and go back to normal.

    to be fair I’m not as sociable as I once was. The problem is the longer u stay in your funk the harder it is to get out. I kinda miss my 20s mate. No phobias and not a care in the world. Sigh I can’t look back at that.

    hope your doing well 👊

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  9. Doolhof
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Andre_P

    Hi Andre, RT, 2quik and All Reading,

    Thanks for all your comments. Sometimes I think I have this staying at home more covered as I have been self isolating anyway for years when my depression hits. I have fought it in the past so now it is more necessary to stay home I half get it and the other half of me is fighting it.

    I have work, but due to this current situation I am not sure how long for. Part of my job is to assist people coming into the establishment...no people are coming in now so I sit at a desk with nothing to do for hours. Who is going to keep paying me to do that?

    The other day I happened to park my car near an abandoned café. A bird was looking for food. It made me cry.

    I'm trying to get myself interested in arts and craft projects I have started and never completed or to start new ones.

    I have the time now to do loads of jobs in the garden but I have no motivation!

    I need to work on my thoughts, emotions and feelings and try harder to make the most of each today. I was told once to be aware of my actions and reactions to event happening around me.

    This morning I will go for a walk before walk. Hopefully that will help cheer the spirit.

    Cheers all from Dools

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  10. Guest_9043
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Andre_P
    Hi Andre,

    It is more than fine going for a drive around your locality. There are NO RULES stating you can't and I suggest you keep doing it. It is necessary.

    I too am having great difficulty with the social distancing so that is one of the reasons I barely go out. In saying that I feel angry, sad and defeated by this pandemic.

    I can also suggest do everything you can (within the limits that have been imposed and enforced) to not stay in the funk.

    I only just joined a community page on Facebook within my own locality in support of Covid 19. It does also help. I'm finding very kind and caring people. I've spoken openly about my mental illness and people have reached out through comments on my post. I guess for me that's the silver lining in the cloud. Talking to people you never thought you would and opening up to community. I use this all to my advantage.

    Keep your chin up mate.
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  11. Guest_9043
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Doolhof
    Hi Dools,

    I just want to acknowledge your post and say I will respond later.
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hi 2quick, thank you for this thread. Unfortunately it's a hard time for everyone. We all have to try our best to take care of our mental and physical health, as hard as it is.

    Take care and be safe everyone!

    - Tayla.

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  13. Sleepy21
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Guest_201

    hi 2quick,big wave to all else here,

    I totally relate to what you are writing. I was the same, my mental health came first and it took me a little while to fully commit to the restrictions. I was going to shops still with social distancing, not for the goods, but more for the social interaction, and to feel part of a community. As it got more serious, I had to change and it annoyed me very much for the first few days. And terrified me.

    I'm glad you find the Facebook groups helpful, and that's a nice element that people you'd never think you could speak to, are sharing and being helpful. I'm glad you've got that, because it's really hard to find supportive groups over this time. People say "Just join an online group," - but i find that quite challenging.

    i'm sorry this time is so hard foryou, and just wanted to tell you I really hope this situation eases :)

  14. Guest_9043
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Doolhof
    Hi Dools,

    Hope this finds you a tiny bit better. I see you have so much going on. I only can encourage you to pick up your art. It is a great expressive tool with no rules attached. I cannot help you with the motivations side of things, yet I can say start one tiny step at a time, break everything down into bite size pieces and chew on it for as long as you feel the need before taking the next bite.

    I also encourage you to cry when you want/need too. It has been scientifically proven that tears actually carry out emotions in them, our feelings in them, our pain, our joys, our happiness.

    As for work I would go for as long as I could because it gets you out a bit and makes you some money. Maybe you could use that time since there is not much to do, to work on thoughts, feelings and emotions?

    Keep your chin up in these hard times.
  15. Guest_9043
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    29 March 2020 in reply to Sleepy21
    Hi Sleep21,

    I suspect many people including myself are feeling what you are feeling. I just today have decided I can no longer go to shopping centres anymore. I went to just get a handful of items today, in and out as quick as I could and I actually broke down in tears this afternoon. I am going to work out something else. I have some options now, however I will no longer be going food shopping. I just cannot manage at all.

    Yes, I understand and agree it is hard to find online supportive groups. I actually am only on one besides Beyond Blue (my main home) I don;t particularly like Facebook and wasn't a Facebook user until this hit. I will not join any other online groups, I have other things that take up plenty of my time. I do not want to rely on social media as I am not a huge fan of it these days. I do not have any friends of my Facebook as I do not want any. My FB page is also completely bare and it will stay that way. I limit my time there as well.

    You do what is right for you and in your best interests only. Thank you, I hope this situation ease too.

    Be good to you.

    2quik.
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    30 March 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hi 2quik and Hi to everyone reading,

    Thanks for your kind words and encouragement. I know I have trouble with my mental health plummeting quickly so I do want to engage in positive activities that will help me.

    Today I will get my paints out, use bright colours and see what happens.

    There are dead bushes out in the garden I can try to cut down and clean up.

    I will phone some older ladies from Church and see how they are getting on.

    I will phone my parents and check on them.

    I am thankful I have employment, there is so much more I could be doing there right now to help those around me. My current role is limited.

    Regarding shopping, are the supermarkets in your area still doing home deliveries? I know in some areas they have stopped doing this. Hope you can put something in place.

    I respect your thoughts on Facebook and other online groups. I feel they can be beneficial and detrimental depending on our moods and how we use them.

    Thanks again for your kind words, they have meant a lot to me.

    Kind regards to all from Dools

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  17. Guest_9043
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    30 March 2020 in reply to Doolhof
    Hi Dools,

    You are welcome. I am glad you are making your own efforts and it does not matter if you did not do it all today. The fact that you have made a start is fantastic in itself. I believe mental illness or not everyone is having their struggles right now. I just want you to know you are definitely not alone in it. My day was really really hard today I struggled through the entire day. As for shopping I am going to get it organised no matter what. I just cannot attend anymore. My stress levels are beyond through the roof and I am not coping.

    I understand what you say about Facebook. I am a very minimal user. I do not believe sitting on it for a hours a day at all. I want to make better use of my time.

    Take good care Dools. Thinking of you.

    2quik.
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    30 March 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hey 2quick,

    just wanted to say hello to you and hope you are okay....it is very hard these days with isolation, wishing you a good one tomorrow and that you wake rested. p.s. I'm excited SBS is doing an Adam Driver focus, showing movies of him every night. you are right : sbs is great.

  19. Guest_9043
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    31 March 2020 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hey Sleepy21.

    Hello and thank you. I hope things are well with you. It is hard hitting that is for sure. I am not happy with the new latest decisions of government. This is taking things just way too far and is going to cause huge problems. I do not mean to disobey what government says at all, shutting down our lives as we know it in every single way is not right. Yet, I am so beyond mentally exhausted all I want to do is sleep anyway. I have no idea hwo Adam Driver is but I will google. I hope you find great joy in watching SBS. I am watching the new Inspector Rex episodes.

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    Hey 2quick, nice to hear from you... Definitely hard-hitting these days, and just overall a bizarre and unpredictable life. (Not to be too negative... but also just to call it what it is!!) Inspector Rex sounds amazing , SBS on demand really delivers. Sending support and good tv always
  21. Guest_9043
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    1 April 2020 in reply to Sleepy21

    Hey sleepy21,

    Yep, I just wake up everyday now and go yep OK what craziness is the world going to throw in the mix today? Today I decided you know what, just let go of it all. Life will be so much easier. So I have done just that and I do pretty much what I like when I like now. Inspector Rex is awesome. It is in Italian. Not to everyone's taste I suppose. Long live SBS! I also replied to your very first post. Cheers to good TV, keep your head up.

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    1 April 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hi 2quik, Sleepy21 and all reading,

    Sorry to read you have been hit hard at present 2quik.

    Distractions are good when we don't know what to do with ourselves or find we have little motivation.

    I make myself a list of things to do during the day. If I don't achieve any of them or do something totally different, that is okay.

    The list is always there for the next day.

    Having a routine does help...when I can stick to it! Having plans and goals is beneficial. Being realistic with expectations of self is also important.

    One day at a time right! We might get some rain here, I am looking forward to that!

    Cheers all from Dools

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    1 April 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hi 2 quick, yes the world is absolutely crazy, you are totally right there... so do we just go with it then? Resisiting it has been tiring me out. I went to the supermarket today which was stressful to be around so many people in masks - i even saw very small children in them. Just such an odd thing to see.

    sbs forever. It's been such a reliable friend over this time. Definitely long live SBS

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    HI Dools, your idea of a list is really good. It really can help. I think the lack of structure can be a little terrifying for some (puts hand up!).
    I will give it a try. Thanks
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    Hi Sleepy and All,

    I'm going to update my list. I might even make different sections such as

    - Tasks/jobs I could do (and make them achievable)

    - Pleasurable activities

    - Exercise

    - Taking care of mental health (Might be meditating, writing down thoughts in my head, listening to music etc)

    I'm also finding I need a routine. My husband comes home from work at different times during the day and that messes up my routine! Ha. Ha.

    I now try to do activities where I want to relax and concentrate when he is not at home, as he likes to have the radio or the T.V. blaring constantly and that does my PTSD brain in when it just needs quiet.

    If I become agitated I go for a walk or go out into the garden.

    A daily schedule could be beneficial as well. Once again, if it is not followed, that doesn't matter. At least it is there as a guide.

    Cheers all from Dools

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    3 April 2020 in reply to Doolhof
    Hi Dools, I agree, that's the way i go for it too.. its amazing how our mind gets at ease when we have a direction. I love how you put pleasurable activities in there. So smart. I'm hoping your list continues to grow and develop and give good support
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  27. Guest_9043
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    3 April 2020 in reply to Sleepy21
    Hi Sleepy, I am limiting contact as much as I can with the external world right now. It is just way too much to see more madness when I am dealing with two quite literally insane people that were in my life for longer than they should have been. I just cannot manage that on top of everything else.

    Viva SBS.

    2quik.
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    4 April 2020 in reply to Guest_9043

    Hi 2quik, Sleepy and All reading,

    Yesterday I needed to get out for a while and went for a walk, and kept on walking, then I had to walk home! I was cursing the hills in the end and had a good foot soak when I finally arrived home 2 hours later.

    It reminded me I used to do that as a child. That was part of my survival plan, to go for a long walk and avoid being home.

    For me, I need to find and instigate pleasurable activities to do in the home. In my mind "home" is not a safe place always.

    Maybe one thing I will schedule in next week is putting music on and dancing around in the house...while my husband is at work!

    I will make a list just of pleasurable activities and see how many I can cross off in a week. Sounds like a plan.

    We are all doing what we can to get through these changing and different times.

    Wishing you all direction, perspective and many pleasurable activities you can do at home to brighten your days.

    Cheers from Dools

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  29. Guest_9043
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    4 April 2020 in reply to Doolhof
    Hey Dools.

    I personally have had enough of living my life around this virus. It's dwindling. I'm taking necessary precautions. Extra washing if hands and washing them well, practicing social distancing and mostly staying home.

    They talk about a recession, they should have kept the name the depression cause that is exactly what it is really. It is seriously harming my mental health. Shopping was a right pain yesterday. We bought four cans if different beans. Not usually an issue. Nope not allowed. Only two cans if any type of vegetables. I am very angry with the panic buyers who did not think about anyone else and were incredibly foolish. Disappointed in how pathetic humanity can be sometimes.

    I don't even read about it anymore. I just do what I need and want people to leave me alone. This has had a major impact on my already poor mental health.

    I'm glad you are finding positivity and good things to do.
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    4 April 2020 in reply to Doolhof
    Hey Dools

    I know exactly what you mean about the memories and about home being safe. I notice when I walk my mind lulls into a meditative state which I can't feel in my own home. Home is pressure and stress to me, and I've never really been able to understand why or how - but this post made a lot of sense to me.
    I hope the dancing went well!!
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