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Topic: Intrusive thoughts.

14 posts, 0 answered
  1. Joshua B
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    25 January 2021
    I haven’t had intrusive thoughts for a while, but now they’re back and they’re really intense. I know that the intrusive thoughts are egodystonic and false, being the opposite of my values, ethics, principles and morals. The intrusive thoughts try to confuse me and then manipulate my thought processes, and it tries to do this nonstop. My psychologist and psychiatrist have both said that it is egodystonic. I am following the advice from the professionals and trying my best to avoid reassurance and any emotional reaction to the intrusive thoughts. I’m also writing my intrusive thoughts in a journal to desensitise myself to the intrusive thoughts. Recent stresses in the household may have caused another session of intrusive thoughts to occur. I’m using the Headspace, RainRain and TheMighty apps. I am seeking as much help as possible and I am using my social network as much as I can. I am using as many analogies as I can to strategise as to how to cope with and selectively ignore the egodystonic intrusive thoughts. Is there any other strategy that I can do to ignore these intrusive thoughts successfully?
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  2. quirkywords
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    26 January 2021 in reply to Joshua B

    Jishua

    welcome to the forums and thanks for writing your first post.

    You are getting help and trying things to help you the intrusive thoughts.

    You are using a variety of techniques and apps . Do you feel one works better for you than the others.

    If you type intrusive thoughts into search box and top right hand of page you may find threads that may help.

    I am not sure how long you have been trying the methods mentioned but as you know it can take time.

    It must be very stressful for you . As you said there have been recent stresses in your household, have they lessened at all. ?

    If you want keep in touch and let us know how you are.

    By answering your post it will bump up so more people can see it.

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  3. Missing user
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    26 January 2021 in reply to Joshua B

    Hey Joshua B, welcome to the forums.

    I have no idea what you mean by egodystonic, I've never heard that word. I'm sorry you're having stress and intrusive thoughts though. Seems like a good idea to write it in a diary.

    I hope the apps work for you and you find support here, and as quirky said, you can do a search to see some tips and other threads on the same topic.

    I have intrusive thoughts myself so I don't have any ways to cope and stop them unfortunately, I'm sorry I can't help more. But I do care and I'm here for you.

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  4. clown of mine
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    26 January 2021 in reply to Joshua B
    your post is brave and your actions are brave - it takes time to get a handle on things and you will cause your managing thus far is brilliant. Distraction are helpful just regular stuff take a walk notice the weather and the environment around you - see a movie - ride a bike - and post on line. I salute you
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  5. Joshua B
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    30 January 2021 in reply to clown of mine
    Thank you, I find that to be very helpful. Things like the environment and weather do seem to be good distractions. I appreciate your help.
  6. Joshua B
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    30 January 2021 in reply to quirkywords
    Thank you quirkywords, I really appreciate the welcome. I apologise for the late reply. The household stress has lessened, but the intrusive thoughts are still invading. I’m trying my best to separate myself from the intrusive thoughts and ignoring them, but they come in huge, prolonged waves. I’ll check out the intrusive thoughts forums that you suggested. Again, thank you.
  7. Joshua B
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    30 January 2021 in reply to Missing user
    Thank you mb20lover, that is really nice of you. What I meant by egodystonic is something that is in conflict with a person’s values, morals, ethics, principles, etc. Thank you for your kindness.
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  8. Missing user
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    30 January 2021 in reply to Joshua B
    Oh ok, thanks for explaining it to me Joshua B. I'm sorry you've been dealing with that amongst other things. I'm here for you, although I don't fully understand the egodystonic thoughts but I'm willing to listen and try to offer support as much as I can.
  9. geoff
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    30 January 2021 in reply to Joshua B

    Hello Joshua B, knowing that these intrusive thoughts are egodystonic and false makes it very difficult to know the problem, but there are other issues that may interfere with those memories, such as, someone becomes concerned about a thought which may relate to a past event which may have happened but by some confusion, our mind makes up a reason why, and this is not any fault of yours, as I too have had them.

    As said a distraction might help, like go and play with the kids or something similar to take your mind off these intrusive thoughts, because if you can't do this the stronger they become.

    It's like giving a ball to a puppy to chase after, it will continually bring it back to be thrown again, but if you ignore it, then eventually, it won't bring it back and entertain itself another way.

    Best wishes.

    Geoff.

  10. Tom29
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    17 February 2021
    Hi
    I too have been having intrusive thoughts myself never used to have any until now. It absolutely scares me, been breaking down crying, feeling physically sick, feeling guilty and embarrassed even though these thoughts intruded on me.
    I hope to those who are going through intrusive thoughts do get better, I'm new to this and it upsets and scares me.
  11. Guest_206
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    1 April 2021 in reply to Tom29
    Hi there everyone,
    I too am getting intrusive thoughts that are in conflict with my values and beliefs. They're awful and embarrassing and so far I have just been telling myself "Oh it's just an intrusive thought" when it happens. I haven't had a chance to speak to my psyc yet about it cause of other stuff going on. It's happening more so recently for some reason.

    Tom29 - I'm sorry it's been so debilitating for you.
  12. Guest_206
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    1 April 2021 in reply to Joshua B
    And I forgot to say thank you to Joshua B for teaching me the egodystonic word - that is definately what is happening with the intrusive thoughts. I wonder why our brains do this to us? It's such a weird thing...
  13. Petal22
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    1 April 2021 in reply to Joshua B

    Hello Joshu B,

    i had severe OCD ... due to my intrusive thoughts..... I was diagnosed with this condition by a psychiatrist.... I have now recovered...

    I recovered by seeing my gp through to doing group therapy sessions with trainees at a university that specialised in OCD..... you can recover from this condition with the correct help...

    I was taught mindfulness, meditation, how to challenge my thoughts and how not to get caught up in my ocd cycle..... you can be free of OCD you don’t need to remain in its grip.....

    when you have the thoughts just try to let them be there don’t put your attention on it... the more we give attention to our intrusive thoughts the more they come back because the brain thinks they important.... what we give attention to we give power to.....

    when you have them practice mindfulness..... instead of focusing on the thought.... don’t question the thought or interact with it in any way...

    it all takes practice

    id recommend you see your gp for what you are experiencing.... I was put on a antidepressant which really helped with my level of anxiety and see if they can refer you to some one who specialises in OCD.....

    im here if you want to chat ......

  14. geoff
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    1 April 2021 in reply to Guest_206

    Hello Guest and those who have also posted, we mustn't forget that everybody does have intrusive thoughts but they don't become obsessive and are able to move on and get on with their day, differently from someone suffering from OCD where they cause a great deal of distress and keep recurring, maybe with much more intensity.

    Not to be confused with reoccurring happens again but not always repeatedly.

    We are able to say they are 'intrusive thoughts' but the way they are able to impact our life is a worry we have to try and contend with.

    As I've had this illness for 60 odd years, I've learnt to realise that I won't carry out any of these thoughts, so now I'm not concerned by any of them, but I know and understand how those who are struggling with them feel and very sorry for you.

    Take care.

    Geoff.

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