Hi TrfmeBne, I have actually seen the sort of thing that you're describing. Actually, I've seen this twice in two completely different and unrelated families, who I was friends with when I was much younger, which is quite amazing now that I think about it! I can't offer much help though, as the situation was as you describe, with both sets of parents allowing the situation to continue and concerned about what might happen to their child if they didn't protect them. I think there was also a sense of shame and the stigma of mental illness was much worse in the 1980s than it is now. While one of these families knew that there was a problem, the other was in complete denial regarding the behaviour and even tried to justify it to me, telling me that there was nothing wrong, even though the young person hardly ever came out of their room and did not communicate with anyone. Remember that this was in the days before the internet!!! It seems ridiculous that so much emphasis is placed on the person showing these kinds of behaviours having to be the one to reach out for help, especially when they sometimes don't know that what their behaviours are not normal and that they need help. It's one of the things that I feel is so wrong with the mental health system - that family and friends are often not listened too and can do little to influence situations where the sick person does not have insight regarding their condition. I think you're already doing all that you can, but maybe you need to get some help for yourself as it can be really awful to have to stand by and watch this going on, while feeling powerless to change it. I hope my sharing this has helped you to know that your situation is not unique.