Welcome to the Healthy Families forums!

This is a space to ask questions, share experiences and support each other. Find a relevant thread or start your own!

Before you can post or reply in these forums, please join our online community and have a read of the community rules. Forum membership is open to anyone residing in Australia.

  • share on Facebook
  • share on Twitter
  • Print page

Topic: Recently disability support pension

21 posts, 0 answered
  1. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    9 October 2019

    Hi I suffer from major Depressive and anxiety disorder and have been for the last 5 years. I have been on Newstart allowance and now they are giving me the runaround so I was told by them do apply for the dsp.

    My my question is has anybody recently applied for it and how’d you do?? I have an appointment tomorrow for a job assessment before they make a decision which I don’t understand and I’m already receiveing calls my a job employer wanting to book an appoint with them.

    Any tips ops you could give? I have given all my paper work in including letters from gp and psychiatrist. Just unsure if I have enough.

    I was read some forum posts from a couple years ago saying it was extremely hard so just want to know if anything’s changes?

    thabks

    1 person found this helpful
  2. Desedrata
    Desedrata avatar
    10 posts
    9 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    It's not extremly hard. Daunting and scary for us because our anxiety is exaggerating things in our own minds on us but not hard. You already have all the answers to their questions because it is entirly based on you so, be assured that whilst it will be emotional for you it will not be hard.

    They are not their to judge you, they are their to listen and assist you in the way that is best for you. Be you and be honest.

  3. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    9 October 2019 in reply to Desedrata
    Thanks for your input, I understand. Just heard they decline a lot lately
  4. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    11 October 2019 in reply to Rob851
    Well it’s just as hard as they say. Got a no after providing everything they wanted and the job agency has already booked me an appointment to start a job search. Definetly will be appealing but not holding my breath. Apparently cause I’m under 35 they crack down harder.
  5. Desedrata
    Desedrata avatar
    10 posts
    11 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    I wasn't expecting that. I don't know what to say. I am sorry but you could do no more no less then be yourself.

    I have just remembered something else but it's more or less out of your hands and your not going to like it. No matter what you say if your doctor did not fill in the forms a specific way when assessing you then you will be rejected automatically. The doctors can't predict who will get assistance but they know who won't. That of course does not mean your doctor knew. The final "yes" is out of your doctor's hands.

    Did you get given a reason as to why they felt you were still capable of working whilst in this state?

  6. geoff
    Life Member
    • Awarded by beyondblue for providing outstanding peer support to the online community over a period of 3+ years.
    • A member of beyondblue's blueVoices community
    geoff avatar
    3399 posts
    12 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    Hi Robb, I understand the situation you're in, and sorry but it would be highly likely that they will refuse the first, second or whatever application, it's not something Centrelink hands out like pamphlets.

    Perhaps you could get your doctor and psychiatrist to reword their letter, the latter may charge you a fee, depends on the connection you have with them.

    Copy and paste this link 'https://guides.dss.gov.au › guide-social-security-law' and let us know what you think.

    Best wishes.

    Geoff.

  7. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    12 October 2019 in reply to Desedrata
    It’s been about 3 months since I first handed in the forms so my minds a bit hazy but nowadays the doctor doesn’t fill in forms. I personally fill in the form then you get a letter from your doctor and psychiatrist as proof and back up. Then after a job assessment interview the person contacts you doctors and has a chat.
    il add both my doctors are totally on my side and the letters they wrote were totally in my favour. The conclusion was I’m able to work 4 hours a week and able to study a course so they deemed it a no.
    im going to see if the my doctor can add more detail in an appeal letter but to me it’s like they are looking for people who are totally unable to look after themselves.
  8. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    12 October 2019 in reply to geoff

    I can’t seem to open that page.
    I Found an Impairment Table on the DSS website.

    clearly under mental illness table 5 impairment of 20 points I fall under 4 subjects so I guess I have something to back me up

  9. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    12 October 2019 in reply to Rob851
    Got it working thanks
  10. geoff
    Life Member
    • Awarded by beyondblue for providing outstanding peer support to the online community over a period of 3+ years.
    • A member of beyondblue's blueVoices community
    geoff avatar
    3399 posts
    13 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    Hi Robb, thanks for letting me know.

    Geoff.

  11. Desedrata
    Desedrata avatar
    10 posts
    13 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    My nephew is in his 20s and is agrophobic/anti-social (not sure of spelling,doesn't leave the house)

    I guess he didn't have any trouble because they had to go to him. He was not able to go to them.

    The forms I was recollecting were from when I went which yes, that was a while ago.

  12. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    14 October 2019 in reply to Desedrata
    Interesting. Would you say your nephew suffers similar to depression and anxiety ?
  13. Desedrata
    Desedrata avatar
    10 posts
    14 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    I know I am the one that brought it up so, I do apologise but I feel uncomfortable going indepth about my nephew.

  14. liza_m6
    liza_m6 avatar
    0 posts
    21 October 2019
    Interesting situation you have there Rob, I too recently applied for DSP and have had a JCA, I’ve been progressed to a DMA now - under 35 and studying too!
  15. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    21 October 2019 in reply to liza_m6
    Good luck! Would like to know how it turns out
  16. liza_m6
    liza_m6 avatar
    0 posts
    22 October 2019 in reply to Rob851
    Will keep you posted!
  17. BeKindRewind4Life
    BeKindRewind4Life avatar
    0 posts
    25 October 2019 in reply to Rob851

    The impairment tables have been in force since the Gillard government, (refer to Rob's post)

    They will do a JCA pay particular attention to working hours. Be descriptive as to how your work capacity is effected by health conditions, *if* and *when* asked. 
    See the Department of Human Services website to find the participation requirements for the Disability Support pension.

    JCA won't let you know the outcome, *guidelines*..which is incredibly bad for people with anxiety issues who just need relief from punitive actions by the government. They also won't give you a copy of the JCA, so make sure to remember and write down what you said in the interview, as they compare these on your file in future JCAs. This is why it's important to tell the truth.

    Job Service Providers get paid per head for intake as well as different services they provide e.g helping the client change the font and adjust the whitespacing on their resumes, providing dirty decade old computers for job searches you could do at home, job clubs where they teach you how to sell a pen because they saw that in a movie FYI the response of "because I can perform a tracheotomy on you with a pen" is not a valid response.If they actually find you an employer and a job that lasts much longer than it takes for them to get their cut, I'll give you my first born.

    When I did my DSP assessment back in the day, I made sure I had a mental health history , a psychiatrist, GP, history dating back years works well. If you haven't seen a doctor for a while, start going regularly, make sure you utilise mental health staff, medical certificates are also useful. Finally, if you need, take backup support to the interview, even if you don't think you do, it's also a good idea to have them there.

    The successive governments made the requirements harder for DSP,

     

     

  18. Rob851
    Rob851 avatar
    0 posts
    26 October 2019 in reply to BeKindRewind4Life

    Yes I provided all my background and details. Also had back up letters from psychiatrist and local Jp noting history of depression plus I always send in a medical form when 1 runs out.

    I was told by the job agency because I signed to new start at the beginning it’s an automatic 4 hour a week job search/work but since I had medical cert I got exempt for 2 years but as soon as that 2 years ends the exemptions automatically stop.

    I had to go in to sign a job agreement even this I was not in the right place just to get my money. So I rang Centrelink up and the guy goes the only way your going to get an exemption is if I apply for disability which gives me 3months which I did. So next step will be asking for a review of their decision

  19. pspd4976
    pspd4976 avatar
    0 posts
    30 December 2019 in reply to liza_m6
    Hey Liza. How did this end up going for you?
  20. geoff
    Life Member
    • Awarded by beyondblue for providing outstanding peer support to the online community over a period of 3+ years.
    • A member of beyondblue's blueVoices community
    geoff avatar
    3399 posts
    30 December 2019 in reply to pspd4976

    Hello Pspd, have a look at ArtLover's thread, it may give you another thought to concern.

    Geoff.

  21. pspd4976
    pspd4976 avatar
    0 posts
    11 January 2020 in reply to geoff
    Hi Geoff. I can’t seem to see that thread.

Stay in touch with us

Sign up below for regular emails filled with information, advice and support for you or your loved ones.


Sign me up