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Topic: My younger brother has gone to jail, and I'm struggling to hold it together

  1. Mrs AK
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    22 June 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Thank you so much for your kind reply , I feel amongst friends in this forum as the predicament we face is one we are all facing together .

    I haven’t as yet spoken to a counsellor as I have a strong band of support around me , but there are things you can’t even tell your closest family or friend .

    Pits hard to explain the grief of having a child that is still alive , but is nothing like the child you know . Or how much it hurts when you get fed lie after lie . Or how you are working extra hard to pay off loans that you took out in the confusion to try and keep them from getting in more trouble . Or the advice that was given with all the love in the world that was obviously ignored .

    The nights I have spent just lying awake wondering if he is cold or well fed , or if he has a friend in there he can trust ?

    But the biggest heartache is that he is 14 hours from where I live and the reason for that are the choices he made that ultimately put him behind bars .

    I cant do much but wait and pray that in time he will become the man I know he is meant to be . I think of everyone who is going through this feels the same . This is tough but I have to be tougher .

    I am in constant touch with my granddaughter , who is now two and she has become my focus .

    I wish you all strength and healing and better days ahead x

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  2. Leth
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    23 June 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi dools, very lovely of you for checking in.

    Im doing ok. I have my good days, and I have my unbalanced and rather emotional days.

    My good days are when I'm distracted by work and don't have a lot of time to think, my bad days (usually nights) are when I'm rather exhausted and think about the whole situation.

    The Borderline has been an amazing help. A lot of what he's told us here is something my brother has confirmed he's been advised by the corrections staff.

    I wish there was a way I could thank The Borderline more.

    Youre definitely not offending and regardless of the words, your concern is so heartwarming, so thank you.

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  3. Leth
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    23 June 2018 in reply to Mrs AK

    Hi Mrs AK,

    Im sorry to hear you're in a similar situation, and my heart goes out to you, your son and your family.

    Ita great to hear that you have a good network of people around you who are able to be there and support you through this emotional time.

    2 things, I know exactly how you feel about it being a hard topic to discuss. I mainly only discuss it with my mum and partner. Outside of those two people and I almost feel frozen. I've somewhat distanced myself from family and friends because I don't want to talk about it to anybody else. Or don't want the question "how's your brother going?" to come up.

    Secondly, as a brother, I too have sleepless nights wondering how my brother is sleeping, eating or coping. Is he managing his medication, how is he interacting, or the possible fear he's feeling. That sort of thinking leads to irrational thinking, and then turns into major anxiety.

    My mum is very much the same, she too has broken sleeps and as a mum, I can only imagine the pain is even more stronger than my own.

    Hearing from my brother, even just a short phone call, to see how he's going is enough to boost my spirits for a while.

    Although it doesn't take long for me to begin to worry again.

    Its the unknown, the feeling of helplessness and having no control over the situation that makes it all very difficult to handle sometimes.

    My psychologist has been great, and it's a relief to know that the motions of feeling this way is ok, and to look at it as a big wave. Once the wave is over, things will settle again. I guess that's life. Life comes in waves. Big ones and small ones.

    It's all about taking small steps I've realised. And to not feel guilty when if I feel all I want to do is curl up and watch a favourite tv show, staying warm and just feel.

    I may not be of much help, but if there's anything I can do, please ask.

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  4. Doolhof
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    24 June 2018 in reply to Mrs AK

    Hi Mrs. AK,

    It is good to know that you feel welcome here, comforted in some way and supported. It does help to be able to express yourself and share how you are feeling. Getting thoughts out of our minds certainly can be very beneficial.

    It must be difficult for you having your son so far away! Do you have the opportunity to telephone him or write him letters perhaps? Is it possible to use emails or other forms of modern technology? I am not sure how that works in a prison system.

    As far as children go, I was never able to carry a pregnancy to full term, so I do not know the anguish of a mother having so many troubles with a child. I do know of the anguish and hurt I caused my own parents and am very thankful I managed to stay on the right side of the tracks.

    I can imagine there are some things you do not feel comfortable sharing with people who are there in your life. This is a safe and anonymous place to share what ever you feel you need to or want to.

    Sending you strength and kind thoughts, from Dools

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  5. Doolhof
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    24 June 2018 in reply to Leth

    Dear Leth,

    Your words to myself and also to Mrs. AK have me in tears. Tears of sadness for you all and tears of encouragement in a strange way seeing your resilience dealing with the experience you are going through.

    I can well imagine there are times when your heart and mind are torn in two, when you feel like you should not be able to enjoy yourself because of your brother's situation. This may be something to discuss with the counsellor if you have not done so already.

    There have been times in my life of deep grief where I have wished the world would just stop for a while so I could rest or catch my breath. I have been in total misery and wondered what the people in the car next to me at the traffic lights had to laugh at.

    I like the idea of the waves. For a while here a few of us on the forum were knocking around the idea of how to just float when the going got really tough. Maybe you can try that too in between the waves.

    Regarding The Borderline, hopefully he has read your comments and knows in his heart how much he has helped you and countless others reading his words.

    In time, it may be you who are able to help and support others with your words! Like you are already helping Mrs. AK!

    Wishing you a day where the happy moments feel natural and acceptable!

    Cheers from Dools

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  6. Mrs AK
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    25 June 2018 in reply to Leth

    Hi leth

    First of all I want to say what an amazing son you are , firstly for being there for your mum and for being there for your brother . There are so many lost boys floating around in the world who wouldn’t be lucky enough to have one let alone two warriors by their side .

    drugs and mental health issues appear to go hand in hand . I often wonder what came first the chicken or the egg ? It is impossible to be inside someone’s head and know the depth of pain they are feeling , without getting it all analysed and laying all that stuff out on the table .

    If there’s one positive in all of this it’s that maybe our boys , sons and brothers are getting or at least have access to someone in there that can figure out what’s going on inside their head to help eventually work towards the healing for a better life .

    Keep your our chin up mate !! It helps to know I’m not alone in my sadness 😔 wish your mum all the very best too please ....

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  7. Mrs AK
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    25 June 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Hi Dools

    thankyou for your kindness . There are so many beautiful people in this world and I strongly feel you are one of them !

    i have spoken to my son now on three occasions and each time he sounds more controlled , more humble and appears to be listening when I speak . To be honest we have had better conversation than when he was on the outside .

    i hate this whole process and I feel like I have become a slave to my phone . I tend to take it everywhere with me , just in case he rings . But having said that at least I know where he is and starting to get the hang of what he might be doing during the day . He has a job in the kitchen so I can usually relax until after four when he finishes “work” expecting a possible call after that .

    its very hard when he has been trying to contact someone else on his phone list and he can’t and he then wants me to fix that and find out if they are ok . Very hard

    I’m working through this as it happens and realise that all the love and good parenting that we can give does not guarantee they will choose the right path . I’ve actually stopped beating myself up about that . It’s not my fault !

    Thankyou again for helping to keep us strong 💪 xx

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  8. Doolhof
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    29 June 2018 in reply to Mrs AK

    Dear Mrs AK and Leth,

    During my life there are many times I could very easily have made mistakes that could have led to huge issues for me and others. Thankfully for me, they never eventuated.

    Mrs. AK my parents tried the best with myself and my siblings. I see many parents who love their children yet still have them make undesirable choices. Look at all the horrid people through history, they all had parents! I'm sure many of them had delightful, wonderful loving and caring parents.

    The most important thing is that you are both there for your relatives now.

    Mrs. AK it must be hard feeling like you don't want to miss a call from your son. It is good to know he has some work to do, that must make a difference to his sense of self.

    Knowing that someone cares is important for anyone who is suffering in any way. If my words and sentiments are able to help in some small way, than I am very thankful for that.

    Sending you both thoughts that someone cares.

    Cheers from Dools

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  9. Doolhof
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    11 July 2018 in reply to Leth

    Hi Leth and Mrs. AK,

    Just dropping by to say "HI" to you both and hoping you are doing okay.

    I can only imagine the journey you and your families are travelling. Hope yo are doing okay despite all that is happening around you.

    Cheers to you seems inadequate, all the best, from Dools

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  10. Mrs AK
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    25 July 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    Good morning , thank you for your concern .

    All is going well , nothing much has changed . I think of my son every minute , every day but not with the same fear as I did when he was on the outside .

    He sounds ok and is working and training hard by the sounds of it . I’ve become somewhat of an expert in dealing with frantic phone calls because it’s buy-up day and he has no money to buy too much etc . I tell him I also can’t buy what a want when I want . Lots of lessons being learnt and beginning to hear a more humble boy who is realising what he has been putting his family through .

    The scenario could have been so much worst and I am feeling thankful he is still here to have conversations with .

    thankyou for all your support amazing people !!!

    xxxx

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    25 July 2018 in reply to Mrs AK

    Hi Mrs. AK,

    Thanks for getting back to us. It certainly does sound like a hard way for your son to learn a lesson, it seems like he is trying to make the most of his time in jail, so that has to be beneficial.

    Hopefully he will learn what is important in life and will receive the help and advice he needs to make changes for the positive.

    How are you coping? Have you found you have been able to tell people what has occurred? Are people supportive if you have told them? For me, the thing is, this could so easily happen to anyone. It only takes one moment of a mistake to lead to such a path.

    You must have many mixed emotions. Like you write, your son is still alive! May you form a stronger bond and may communication be open between you both.

    Wishing you and your son well, cheers from Dools

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  12. Leth
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    2 October 2018

    Hii it's been a while since I've written on this post.

    It was brought to my attention today that my brother was involved in some sort of physical violence from another inmate that caused my brother to be rushed to hospital.

    my brother is extremely distressed and expressed how fearful he is for his life.

    This also put both my mother and myself in an enormous amount of stress today, and the sense of helplessness washed over the both of us.

    My brother was transferred to a different correctional centre where they were able to offer him more extensive psycholgical help, however it seems he's having a worse time there than he was at the prior location.

    i understand my brother is an "adult", although with his mental conditions he probably doesn't entirety cope like an adult, I was wondering if anyone knew if the prison system is obliged to contact the next of kin in cases like this?

    Or am I able to make an appointment to speak to somebody at the centre to obtain more information on what happened.

    I would really appreciate any help.

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    2 October 2018 in reply to Leth

    Dear Leth~

    If I remember your brother is in Victoria. I think that the Corrections Victoria Commissioner's Requirements include a clause that says in the event that a prisoner is seriously ill or injured, there is a responsibility to notify the prisoner’s emergency contact and/or next of kin.

    However this information is several years old, and in any case may not be accurate.

    I would follow your feeling and contact the facility concerned and ask advice both about what has happened and future arrangements.

    As you say it is an extremely worrying time for you and your mum. I guess you both really need support yourselves. Being in a situation where your options are so very limited is a huge stress. It is natural to feel frustrated and even guilty under the circumstances and I'm happy you have decent medical support to help you keep things in perspective.

    It would be good if you could let us know how you go

    Croix

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  14. Guest_7403
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    3 October 2018 in reply to Leth

    They won't contact you for something like injuries obtained from an assault, even if he did go to hospital.

    They usually contact next of kin for serious injuries, stabbings, heart attacks etc

    In terms of contacting them to speak to someone about his placement and mental state they won't meet with you.

    Corrections sentence management team will move him jails, change his status, separate him from other prisoners in order to protect him, what he says will have little impact on what they do with him.

    Corrections invest alot of money into mental health physicians (forensicare) and health care and they put the onus on them to medically treat him inside the jail, they won't reach out for some 3rd party input

    I'm assuming your brother has been put on "the dog" once they lag and move jails the other prisoners know it and find out why...I can only assume this is the case. If he isn't separated indefinitely I'd dare guess threats and assaults would be quite common for him.

    Prisoners are very good at doing this outside of staff view, so staff wouldn't be aware unless they seen facial injuries or your brother tells them

    How long has his sentence got to go?

    Do you know what jail he's at now? Ppp, ravenhall or me?

    Sorry if I sounded blunt but I didn't want to give you too much hope on direct contact with corrections in relation to his medical treatments

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  15. Leth
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    3 October 2018 in reply to Guest_7403

    Hi Theborderline, it's warming to hear from you again.

    youve try again have given me information I couldn't source anywhere else, so thank you.

    Coukd you elaborate more on "the dog"?

    hes currently RH.

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  16. Guest_7403
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    3 October 2018 in reply to Leth

    Prisoners have there own set of rules and guidelines they adhere too.

    Being put on the dog is as low as it gets to them. Prisoner on prisoner assaults occur everyday, most are unknown and not recorded.

    Basically being put on the dog is the same as being called a rat, or a lagger and no better then the officers that manage them.

    My assumption is your brother had a debt, annoyed someone or some other prisoner politics that to us seem trivial but to them is a big deal.

    The fact he has been moved to a remand/sentence facility would highlight him to the other prisoners, as they would question him as too why a sentenced prisoner would be moved to a higher rated facility...story get out and he's back at square one

    The other issue is that all the prisoners know each other, they network and having access to write letters and send them between prisons for free enables them to pass information around about others.

    I'm guessing by your comments about the problem being worse now, suggests word has gotten out

    Unfortunately there's not much he can do about it, just cop it sweet and try and push through....focus on working and making new friends

    Officers aren't privy to this side, we only see the end result....trip to the hospital, or bruises etc

    As awful as it sounds there's really not alot officers can do to help, there's only so many times he be moved before they run out of options and he goes to long term management (23hr lock down with no access to others) but that is not a way too live and eventually breaks even the hardest criminals.

    I wouldn't suggest protection, as the name suggests it's protection for sex offenders from mainstream...but those guys are just as bad and the same daily assaults happen there

    I do sympathise with you, but ultimately he is in there for a reason. And hopefully it's the best thing that'll happen to him in that he will change his ways once released

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    3 October 2018 in reply to Guest_7403

    Dear Theborderline~

    I wanted to thank you for your realistic picture of matters inside, it is a real help to have someone with the right experience able and willing to say how things actually are, a very necessary things. I'm sure there will be other viewers apart from Leth who benefit.

    Thanks

    Croix

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  18. Leth
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    4 October 2018 in reply to Guest_7403

    Hi Theborderline, thank you again for a detailed response.

    Again, you've given me the tools to understand the situation much more clearly, as as you can imagine, hearing him extremely distressed on the phone full of emotion and "fear for his life", it can be extremely hard to understand everything factually.

    What sort of advice could I offer him in a letter or when he next calls?

    How does one who's looking for comfort find the right "friend" in there? It makes sense that perhaps it may look like "lagging" to the CO's but it seems he's trying to find a friend with officers, and thus looks to others like a "dog", but I guess I'll never really know what is actually happening in there.

    Its just a very hard situation, and helplessness is all I feel.

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  19. Guest_7403
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    4 October 2018 in reply to Leth

    It's alright to be polite to staff and follow there directions but I wouldn't be looking to them for friendship, it wouldn't go down well with the other prisoners

    Best advice is to find employment within the jail and try build that work commradery with other prisoners. Maybe find some prisoners in his unit that are more like he is and start working where they do.

    Maybe a smaller workplace like horticulture or timber? I'm not sure what they have in rh but they usually have those

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  20. Guest_7403
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    4 October 2018 in reply to Croix

    No problems.

    I've been in the system long enough to have worked with both prisoners and family so I have seen both sides

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  21. Mrs AK
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    8 December 2018 in reply to Doolhof

    I don’t want to upset anyone or cause further distress to those that have loved ones on the inside but I wanted to let you all know the ending to my story ..... my beautiful son whist still inside was found attempting suicide. He was taken to a nearby hospital where he remained in a comatose state until they removed his breathing tube and he passed away, we have so many questions that may never be answered , but it is in the process of a coronial investigation as I speak . He was 24

    I have never felt a loss like this before and I will never be the same person I was before but I want to say to anyone out there please don’t presume they are safe inside . If you have any concerns annoy that prison until you have reassurance that your loved one is getting the help they need . My son had been taken off all his meds when he went in in May and was putting on such a good performance telling me he was ok . He obviously wasn’t . I will try to stay strong and leth I think of you every day .

    You are in my prayers xx

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  22. Leth
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    28 March 2019 in reply to Mrs AK
    I'm so sorry to hear this. I really am.

    How are you coming along? My heart breaks for you :(
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    30 March 2019 in reply to Mrs AK

    Hi Mrs AK,

    I am so very sorry that I did not see your post until now! I do not know if you are still connected to the forum or not.

    My belated sympathy goes out to you. Words seem so inadequate, especially so as so much time has passed since you sent in your message.

    I'm not sure what else to write, only I am so very sorry for what you have experienced.

    With much care from Dools

  24. Mrs AK
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    13 May 2019 in reply to Leth

    Thankyou leth .

    i felt awful telling you my news as I really was trying to remain positive .

    It has now been 7 months since my son passed and we are all living in our new altered world . I returned to work the week after his funeral and that has been the best medicine for me . Life goes on and I now have my youngest home . Not quite or how I had planned .

    I hope all is well in your world and Thankyou for the support you gave others whilst you and your mum were battling . Stay strong xx

  25. Mrs AK
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    13 May 2019 in reply to Doolhof

    Dools

    thankyou , life is full of experiences good and bad . I have learnt to not stress so much , to enjoy every minute and to always expect the unexpected . Sometimes things throw us completely off kilter but I like that saying . Get up , dress up but don’t ever give up ! That is my mantra

    take care and continue your wonderful work for beyond blue , you are very valuable xx

  26. Evie15
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    25 May 2021

    Dear Leth,

    I know your post was made almost three years ago now, but I am wondering if you're still active on here? I feel a bit funny about posting this but here I go- this is me being completely vulnerable. I am an older sister to an 18-year-old younger brother (who just turned 18 in February) who has recently been imprisoned at an adult prison here in Victoria. Wow- it's been two months and gosh, has it been a long two months. I found your post after a quick google after I had missed a phone call from my brother, which has made me feel awful and upset. Most days I try to keep my life in order- studying, working and maintaining relationships with friends, family and my boyfriend. Most days i'm busy, studying or trying to distract myself from feeling down about my family and my brother. And other days I just want to stay in bed all day, do nothing, cry and just dwell on the whole situation. I guess the reason I'm replying to your forum is, to get some guidance or advice? Did things get better? It's nice to know there are other people out there experiencing the same thing as myself. I feel very lonely whilst accepting and coming to terms with the situation.

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    26 May 2021 in reply to Evie15

    Hi Evie15,

    I would like to welcome you to the community here. I am so sorry to read your brother is in prison and at such a young age. I have only even known one person who went to prison, a friend of a friend, and that was decades ago and they were there for 9 months.

    My experience with a person in prison is just about non existent so I can't help you out from that angle. I would like to let you know that I do understand sadness, grief, anguish, pain and so many other things you may be feeling.

    This is a safe place to share your story if you so desire. It sounds like you are trying hard to look after yourself and to stay connected with other people.

    I can acknowledge how you are feeling, just not the reasons behind it as I have not walked in your shoes. My thoughts are with you and your brother.

    Regards from Dools

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  28. Leth
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    2 June 2021 in reply to Evie15

    Hi Evie15,

    I'm sorry to hear about your younger brother.

    I too felt very uncomfortable in reach out to a forum to get advice, because I really didn't know who to turn to without feeling embarrassed or ashamed.

    I found this forum to be very helpful in getting some sort of clarity to help me get through it all.

    The best advice I can give is to remain strong for your brother, both when you see and speak with him on the phone, and while at home too (so much easier said than done).

    Did it get easier? Longing the loss of someone who is alive is very difficult, I had many nights of disrupted sleep, social withdrawal, and like you, wanted to stay in bed all day.

    I did find keeping myself busy (with work) really helpful as it got my mind off things. This was only short-term, as I was then faced with the reality each night when I finished work for the day and got home.

    As time went on, it got easier for me because I saw it was getting easier for my brother, as in, if I could hear in his voice that he was coping, in essence, it made me feel OK, as though I felt a sense of recharge, but that feeling didn't last very long.

    I'd get worried if I didn't hear from my brother each week, and would jump as soon as I heard my phone ring on any given day or night.

    I would often feel guilty for the simplest things, like eating out, catching up with friends, or even being able to sit under the sun.

    You mentioned you have a partner, and I think that's a really nice thing. If you could get your partner to help you feel what you need to feel, without judgement or pressure, that will definitely alleviate your anxieties and stress and give you a sense of comfort.

    My advice is, allow yourself the space to feel. I can't exactly answer the question "Does it get easier" as any loving member of the family who has to endure a sibling being in prison, regardless of their charge, is always a very difficult thing, and it hurts, it hurts a lot.

    But as time goes on, you find a new level of strength in which you never actually thought you had. And by embracing that, you will get through this with a much clearer and stronger outlook.

    Write letters to him, visit him as much as you can, seek advice from your GP if you're having a hard time dealing, and always feel free to ask any more questions here if I can help in any way?

    I hope this has given you a little bit of light.

    Please take care.

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  29. Nameless1
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    29 June 2021 in reply to Evie15

    Hi Evie 15

    I am writing just to let you know I am also experiencing what you are and also need support and guidance from others going through the same thing.
    I am a mum. The first few months you are in shock and while you want help you can’t tell anyone. We haven’t even told his siblings as he didnt want them to know. Our GP who we see every week for counselling and is wonderful and our ministers at church are the only ones who know… and one friend who I totally trust and receive no judgement. It was all a shock when they came to search the house and took him away. It is easy to want to stay in bed and certainly felt and still feel that some days , but we decided we are no help at all if we didn’t look after ourselves and look out for others also suffering. We still have other family who need our support and our 1st grandchild .
    We pray for strength!! Life will be forever different but I hope makes us all stronger and resilient

    I was like you and wondered if it would ever get easier. There were days I felt frozen and lonely and guilty . There still are. We searched for answers of what and what we did wrong.

    we love him so much but hate what he has done and how every day all we can think about is how he is and what he is doing. We try and block out thinking about him all day and have times in the day we do or else all we talk about is him and go over the same thing. There are things we don’t know and can’t find out so The borderline has been helpful.
    it’s all a waiting game. The worst is waiting for calls when they decide it is easier it to make no contact.
    ciurt in 2 weeks and we have no idea if he will get extra sentence . He is in remand as he got no bail due to breaking it twice. Feeling unprepared dor him coming out even though I have been doing lots of research.

    Keeping busy is good and exercising.
    Distraction doing something you love to do.
    please write so we can support each other

    nameless1

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    29 June 2021 in reply to Leth

    Hi Leth,

    Sorry for what has happened I know it can be difficult when something like this happens….. it’s also so hard to watch your parents going through the situation I’m sure your mum has a heart of gold and has nothing but unconditional love for your brother who has gone to prison…… hopefully by your brother going to prison it will help him to rehabilitate himself……. Anyone who has been travelling in the wrong direction can always make the decision to turn around and come back the other way for the positive….. drug addiction is a terrible thing for the addict and the addicts family….. it s just heart breaking…

    Its very amicable that you are trying to look after your brother’s financials but it’s not your responsibility to pay his debts……. Can you let these businesses know your brother has been incarcerated?

    That’s beautiful your mum is staying with you ……. I know it’s hard when this happens to someone in the family…… as time goes on things will get better……….

    Look after your self….. that’s great you are seeing a gp and psychologist…

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